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From vimeo.com (Approved: LarrySanger), produced by The Longfellow Ten
Short stop-motion video created by students in the collaborative stop-motion project  The video offers little except as a demonstration of what students might do as a tactile way of learning idioms. (0:43)
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mrmayo on 11/20/2009 03:44 PM wrote:

Mr. Sanger, I don't find your comments confrontational at all. And I agree, this isn't a big deal. I didn't mean to imply that I believe the Maryland State Curriculum is the absolute authority on the subject. I just wanted to show that they use a more kid-friendly definition, very similar to the one we used in our video. The definition may be "broad", but I don't think it's wrong.

Here's a quote from the definition of Idiom from dictionary.com that you linked to in your last comment:

"an expression whose meaning is not predictable from the usual meanings of its constituent elements, as kick the bucket or hang one's head, or from the general grammatical rules of a language, as the table round for the round table, and that is not a constituent of a larger expression of like characteristics"

Most middle schoolers would have a tough time deciphering that.

LarrySanger on 11/20/2009 11:28 AM wrote:

Mr. Mayo, I don't mean to be confrontational or anything--this shouldn't be a big deal.  But compare the definitions you found in your curricular materials with the ones from dictionary.com -- the latter have some essential (narrowing) details that the Maryland curriculum definitions left out.  The fact that some curriculum designers in Maryland say a word means something doesn't make it so.  When it comes to the definitions of words, I'll go with a good dictionary over curriculum experts any day of the week.  (And, by the way, I'd go to an English language professor over either one of those.)

mrmayo on 11/20/2009 09:47 AM wrote:

Hi Mr. Sanger & Ms. Linch,

I'm the teacher in Maryland who uploaded this video. Thanks for the feedback. I found this definition of Idiom in the Maryland Reading State Curriculum Glossary: "A phrase whose meaning cannot be understood from the literal meaning of the words in it."

Here's another definition, also from the Maryland State Curriculum:
"a phrase whose meaning cannot be understood from the literal meaning of the words in it Hold your tongue is an English idiom meaning keep quiet."

I don't see the conflict between these definitions and the definition in our video. The last thing we want to do is spread misinformation! Could you please elaborate on why you think our definition is wrong. I appreciate your time, and feedback.

LarrySanger on 11/19/2009 08:43 PM wrote:

All right, I can respect that.

mslinch on 11/19/2009 08:12 PM wrote:

I'm brand new to the WatchKnow community, but I would suggest that student-made videos may have value even when inexact, precisely because they will provide a teachable moment. Even if a teacher or parent is not present to help foster a debate as to a video's merit, the accompanying comments can help propel kids to think more deeply about the topic and dispel misconceptions.

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